Today Paul Gillies once again didn't show any hint that Watchtower will ever apologize (as we already expected).
Also Gillies got destroyed.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witness-child-abuse-sex-18717755 .
no collective regret or any acknowledgement that child sexual abuse had happened among jws..
Today Paul Gillies once again didn't show any hint that Watchtower will ever apologize (as we already expected).
Also Gillies got destroyed.
the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .
five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.
- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.
It would have been good if they could have played the tape to Gillies and asked for comment.
By the looks of it the prof had already seen the video on YouTube or at least read a transcript.
He wasn't asking these questions to gain information - he already had the information and knew tha answer to every question he asked. He just wanted Gillies to say it for himself. He wanted Gillies in a certain spot. Just showing him the video could have given him the option to deny it is an official unaltered video.
Now Gillies has to 'find' the recording of the seminar that the prof already knows exists.
Either Gillies had to come back lying and get caught, or he has to present evidence that JW consider legal proceedings as 'Satan out to get us'.
the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .
five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.
- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.
FYI time ran out today so they'll resume Paul Gillies' testimony tomorrow morning (at 10.30 UK time I think)
i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
I always wonder how an act of disobedience and the resulting disturbed relationship between individuals (Adam/Eve vs JHWH) resulted into physical defects.
Were Adam and Eve not really perfect by themselves, but merely kept alive and healthy by God while they obeyed him?
Or were they perfect and healthy all by themselves, and God purposely put defects into them after they disobeyed?
And how is sin inheritable through DNA?
What are the mechanisms for this?
So many questions, so few reasonable answers....
2020-04 indonesian--shepherd the flock of god elder manual, flock book addendum, and the 2020-august-s-147-e announcements and reminders.. .
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How are things in your neck of the woods? Hope your having sunny skies and sipping on a whiskey sour!
Sunny skies we have! Currently very nice summer weather, almost 32C/89F and more days like that to come.
Unfortunately I must demolish my bathroom this weekend so I'll be extra sweaty...
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Thanks Petra!
I hope the weather doesn't cause you too much trouble!
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Hi Petra,
Could it be that I didn't get these in my email yet?
Would be happy to receive them, either in email or dm.
Thanks!
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-report-can-stay-online-judge-rules/.
The report has appeared on various websites and this, the judge, said, ‘negates any sense of urgency about removal or rectification’.
For context: when the report was about to be released to the public, Watchtower started a preliminary injunction procedure to stop publication of the report.
They lost, and the report was published the same day.
Watchtower appealed the verdict.
They now lost this appeal, as the judge recognizes that a preliminary injunction doesn't make sense anymore anyway as the report has already been published.
Watchtower also demanded that the Minister of Justice would send a letter to the House of Representatives instructing them to disregard the report.
To that the judge ruled that 1) he has no authority to tell the Minister what to do and 2) the Minister has no authority to tell the Representatives what to do. That demand was thus rejected as unconstitutional.
Imho the next logical move for Watchtower could be to start a regular court case, but a newspaper reports they are considering petitioning the Supreme Court. Given the logical arguments of the judge and the nature of preliminary injunction proceedings, I don't think Watchtower will get lucky there.
anyone here thats a former mormon?
a person in the internet wrote abouth them.
that community could not be more impressive in its cohesion, sincerity, benevolence, decency, patriotism, and faith.. i seen mormons go from house to house before the convid virus.they always seem cheerful.
The stories in the exmormon community (https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/ ) are very similar to exjw stories.
and this isn't a cult?
just saw my wife put on her name tag for the zoom assembly.... what the what?
i thought these things werent even live.
Of course wearing a team shirt isn't really the same as having a name badge on in your own home...it's rather silly to identify yourself when home alone or with your family...
It can be compared to someone insisting to visibly wear his work security badge while watching a work instruction video from home....and then proudly shares selfies he did it just like that.
Wearing a name badge for convention is just another sacred JW tradition....of the type they criticize other religions for.